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Post by Shifty on Dec 14, 2013 19:03:07 GMT 9.5
For one brief and shining moment, Nualia's opaque eys ran clear. Amidst the rending fury of battle, she locked eyes with her childhood friend. Her sword arm stalled, and you could almost hear her ask: "Vae? Is that you?"
And then Henric caved her face in.
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Post by Henric on Dec 15, 2013 16:23:08 GMT 9.5
I'm glad you started this thread. Because of the amulet she is wearing, and more specifically the Gentle Repose enchantment, I had every intention of keeping Nualia's corpse and taking it back to the glass works. I wanted to make a glass coffin and have her kept safe in our mausoleum (when we build it), and over the campaign Vae will work towards getting her resurrected. Material components for resurrection are 10,000gp alone, then there is the cost to actually perform the resurrection, so it won't be a little while yet.
A couple of questions I wanted to ask any Clerics: Will the demon in her also be resurrected? Can we remove her arm and mend the symbols of Lamaashtu carved in her stomach to prevent the demon from being resurrected? Can I please have her arm once it's removed? I want to preserve it in formaldehyde and keep it in the torture room...along with any other demon trophys I might come across... I'm thinking Henric might start to become a demon hunter, acting out a deep seeded self loathing of his mixed bloodline.
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Post by viiiirgil on Dec 15, 2013 21:15:33 GMT 9.5
Honestly, I think resurrecting her is pointless. We can find any information we need from a diary or her lackies. The only thing that makes me want to waste the time and money is the fact that courtney put so much effort into what she would say if she survived. Shes dead. Thats how the dice roll.
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Post by Shifty on Dec 16, 2013 10:12:46 GMT 9.5
I'm glad you started this thread. Because of the amulet she is wearing, and more specifically the Gentle Repose enchantment, I had every intention of keeping Nualia's corpse and taking it back to the glass works. I wanted to make a glass coffin and have her kept safe in our mausoleum (when we build it), and over the campaign Vae will work towards getting her resurrected. Material components for resurrection are 10,000gp alone, then there is the cost to actually perform the resurrection, so it won't be a little while yet. A couple of questions I wanted to ask any Clerics: Will the demon in her also be resurrected? Can we remove her arm and mend the symbols of Lamaashtu carved in her stomach to prevent the demon from being resurrected? Can I please have her arm once it's removed? I want to preserve it in formaldehyde and keep it in the torture room...along with any other demon trophys I might come across... I'm thinking Henric might start to become a demon hunter, acting out a deep seeded self loathing of his mixed bloodline. It's true that resurrection would cost a lot of money. The total would actually be 10,910gp (caster level 13 x spell level 7 x 10gp + material components). Plus you've also got the problem of finding a cleric that would be willing to resurrect a very obviously evil woman. But there are other ways. You could, for instance, cast a spell called reincarnate, which is a 4th level druid spell that only requires material components worth 1,000gp, and also has the added benefit of resurrecting her into the body of a living creature that is not tainted with the daemonic arm of Lamashtu. She could even end up coming back as a kobold. If all you want to do is speak to her, then you could simply cast speak with dead, which has no material components and is only a 3rd level spell. Even a 5th level cleric could cast that. As far as your other questions go, a few knowledge religion checks should cover most of it. But you can obviously chop as many bits off her as you want. Nobody's going to stop you putting meat in a jar apart from your own guilty conscience.
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Post by rume2finguz on Dec 16, 2013 11:45:59 GMT 9.5
If all you want to do is speak to her, then you could simply cast speak with dead, which has no material components and is only a 3rd level spell. Even a 5th level cleric could cast that.. I vote for this. Ouija board the shit out of her and let's have chats, just don't go bringing her back to life cuz you know, it's costly, probably dangerous.
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Post by Henric on Dec 16, 2013 13:00:26 GMT 9.5
Honestly, I think resurrecting her is pointless. We can find any information we need from a diary or her lackies. The only thing that makes me want to waste the time and money is the fact that courtney put so much effort into what she would say if she survived. Shes dead. Thats how the dice roll. I think its just Vae that wants to resurrect her being her one and only friend. I think it would sort of be a role playing faux pas to not want to work on ressurecting her. Plus, it will be a cool addition to the Glass Works catacombs. At the end of the day, its not gonna be hard to make the glass coffin... we own a glassworks. Plus, she is already wearing a gentle repose artifact, so its all pretty much done to just keep her. Vae can figure out when and how she wants to bring her back later. Shit, shes a divine caster. she could probably cast the spell herself at some point in the future.
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Post by Shifty on Dec 16, 2013 14:20:09 GMT 9.5
Vae can figure out when and how she wants to bring her back later. Shit, shes a divine caster. she could probably cast the spell herself at some point in the future. Nope. Afraid not. Resurrection is a cleric only spell. Vae will be able to cast reincarnate at druid level 7.
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Post by Virgil Barclay on Dec 19, 2013 7:00:58 GMT 9.5
What makes not this a role playing faux pas? The only character I can see wanting to resurrect her is Vae. And even that is completely for personal reasons. It doesnt make sense for any other character to want to do it. I get that is didnt go exactly to plan, but we set out to destroy her. Job done.
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Post by Henric on Dec 19, 2013 10:48:06 GMT 9.5
What makes not this a role playing faux pas? The only character I can see wanting to resurrect her is Vae. And even that is completely for personal reasons. It doesnt make sense for any other character to want to do it. I get that is didnt go exactly to plan, but we set out to destroy her. Job done. Yeah, if Vae just left her corpes there to rot... that would break the role playing. I mean it doesnt actually take any effort on anyones part to just say Vae braught Nualia back to Sandpoint. All we have to do is say we did it. What im more worried about is do we keep going on and try and kill Malfeshnikor now. Make a camp on Thistletop and rest up a few days before going down, or just go straight back to Sandpoint to hand in Ripnugget and regear for a second assault on Thistletop. The first thing I think Henric would do as soon as we start the next session is try tracking that arcane caster that just legged it at the end of the last battle. If she was at all injured she might have left a little blood trail. I want to find out if she is still on Thistletop or something. If she is, Henric would kind of have a personal vendetta to take her out...
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Post by Henric on Dec 19, 2013 10:57:07 GMT 9.5
Oh, and actually...that pendent she is wearing is Thasalonian (spelling) isn't it? We should probably try and do some Speak with Dead spells to ask her a few questions about how and why she got her hands on that amulet. Surely this would peak Virgil's interest??
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Post by Henric on Dec 19, 2013 11:09:26 GMT 9.5
A.D.D posting BUT...
... did we sail to Thistletop on the Fog of War, drop anchor a little way off and then row there in the little paddle boat thing??
This would make it way easier to regroup on the Fog of War, lock Ripnugget in the gallows and just store Nualia there as well. Then we can rest up and do some covert missions to scout out the rest of Thistletop before finally taking on Malfeshnikor
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Vae
Goblin Dog
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Post by Vae on Dec 19, 2013 11:58:47 GMT 9.5
I don't think we set out to destroy her... we jsut needed to stop her from doing the evil thangs. It makes the most sense to resurrect her. Even if just for story telling purposes. All of sandpoint know who she is. She is Vae's oldest friend. Her childhood friend. There's no way she would want to let her die. Especially when she's all demoney etc. I'll do it all myself if i have to. Saving for moneys etc.
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Post by Virgil Barclay on Dec 19, 2013 15:31:23 GMT 9.5
Oh, and actually...that pendent she is wearing is Thasalonian (spelling) isn't it? We should probably try and do some Speak with Dead spells to ask her a few questions about how and why she got her hands on that amulet. Surely this would peak Virgil's interest?? THIS is defiantly up my alley. Speak with dead is fine. Resurrection I feel is not at all needed.
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morkus
Goblin Refugee
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Post by morkus on Dec 19, 2013 22:34:59 GMT 9.5
Between the glassworks, piracy, and the amount of loot the standard adventure path dishes out we're going to be rich as hell anyway. I think it makes sense from both Henric and Vae's perspective to try and cure Nualia. Morkus doesn't give a shit really unless he can make some money from it.
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